The gag order was to be effective until the 1/13/23 hearing on moving the trial. I'm wondering if they're afraid that trying to explain the generation of the sketch would make the community less confident so it's easiest to attribute it to a sudden appearance of a witness. The other elements were are not sure they agreed on are: a giant plush toy animal, possibly a bear; a crucifix hung upside down; dolls hanging in trees; and a knife plunged into a log with one of the girls hands wrapped around it to make it appear she had stabbed the tree. That is correct. Libby is regarded as a true hero for having the presence of mind to record her killer. "He has not been on our radar, we don't know whose radar he was on. CSX Transportation ceased its use of the railroad in 1987. Jul 17, 2017 Updated Sep 28, 2017. In four years, we only had two LE sources, and each of them told us one statement. "It's anyone's guess at this point, but I think one of those two theories will have to be borne out by the trial because they'll need to have some sort of idea about whether or not they're going to bring charges elsewhere.". Privacy Policy. Remember the social media photo Abby and Libby posted the night before the murders? Officers transport murder suspect Richard Allen during a hearing regarding sealed documents, Tuesday, Nov. 22, 2022, at Carroll County Courthouse in Delphi, Ind. ", A CVS spokesperson released a statement to Fox News Digital saying the company is "devastated by these murders" and "shocked and saddened to learn that one our store employees was arrested as a suspect in these crimes.". Email me to find out. The new trial date will be set during the June bail hearing. "The new material included about one second of video of the man walking behind the girls, his hat pulled down low, in the hopes that someone watching might recognize a quirk in his gait or a familiar mannerism, Superintendent Douglas G. Carter of the State Police said." I could be wrong. The stepson is a 21 year old man who just graduated from high school and lives with Mr. X and his wife, Mrs. X. Allen has been charged with two counts of murder and is currently being held in a state facility without bond. Whether law enforcement is sure the DNA they have is the definitively the offender's is unknown. [18] C wrote on Facebook: I even walked all the way across the bridge and back. Witness sees Delphi Murder suspect, but just recently comes forward to help with composite sketch This article says the recent sketch was from a witness who saw BG. There has been no official indication of if this description is still relevant to the investigation as it was associated with the oldsketch. Havent updated the list in a damn 10 years and addresss is on it still. How do I log in? Enjoying your content very much. The bottom half was covered by the white scarf. By 4 p.m., it was like, 'oh man,''said Patty. " Delphi murders suspect Richard Matthew Allen, who was arrested last week for the 2017 double slaying of teens Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams, lived and worked in the community . So the composite artist simply filled in what he thought the suspects face may have looked like based on the description of the top half of the face. If you were parked there or know who was parked there please contact the officer at the command post at the Delphi city building. Delphi murders:Review the case through 5 years of reporting Initially, the media filed a motion to intervene in November, requesting the court to unseal Allen's probable cause affidavit, his . The person in the sketch released April 22nd is described as having a youthful appearance, but could fall in the age range from his 20s to late 30s. Delphi, Indiana, police have been notoriously tight-lipped about the killings of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams since the first news conference after the girls were found dead in February 2017. I sure hope so. Police say the girls mostly talk about 'stuff girls talk about'in the recording, but, Sgt. True Crime podcasts, which have exploded in popularity over the last decade, have been credited with impacting numerous other previously unsolved high-profile crime cases. Why did we let them go out there? DELPHI, Ind. The next day, two bodies were found in an area along Deer Creek, east of the bridge. I only (saw). Williams was a little quieter but open with her friends and hoping to go into . This happens a lot in remarriages. The Delphi Murders On February 13th, 2017, two girls from small-town Delphi, Indiana decided to take a stroll along one of the region's historic trails. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The Delphi Murders turned the small town of Delphi, Indiana from a place no one has heard about, to the place of one of the nations most heinous, unsolved murders. We simply think that he ought to be investigated for possible involvement in the crime, unwitting or not. Did she see him before the crime or after the crime? Accompanying each new sketch is an official description of the suspect. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. or more realistically, these witnesses are scared that this murderer would come after them too. Delphi, Indiana - In the early days and months of the Delphi Murder investigation information was developed about suspect descriptions. On the bridge? So why does the composite differ so much from the suspect? October 30, 2022; Richard Allen - Indiana Law & Potential Charges Relating to the Delphi Homicide October 29, 2022 Horse and buggy pictured standing on the Deer Creek with the Monon High Bridge visible in the background. Tietosuojakytnnstmme ja evstekytnnstmme voit lukea listietoa siit, miten kytmme tietojasi. The search on Bicycle Road might not mean much. Or better yet, join our private group! They have a toy drive every year for the kids. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have determined the main suspects in the case, have a good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like, and have recently figured out the motive. The podcast is hosted by Jim Clemente who worked for the FBI for 22 years, in part as a Supervisory Special Agentinthe Behavioral Analysis Unit andFrancey Hakes, a former federal prosecutor andthe countrys first National Coordinator for Child Exploitation Prevention and Interdiction, a post appointed by the U.S. Attorney General. Also thankful for the efforts of podcasters and reporters was Libby's mom, Carrie Timmons, who told The U.S. Sun in a statement on Monday night: "I am so very grateful for all of the loving support and kind words from friends, family, and even strangers. I would really like to get some input from you, since you have been doing one heckofa job. Bryant uses a "facial identification reference sheet" that has a list of different categories, from head shapes to different eyebrows and noses. Whether the homicide location and the body disposal location are the same is unknown. Kim Riley. In addition to the two search party members reports, we also have a statement from an LE source close to the investigation that dolls were scattered all over the crime scene, and both girls were posed and sexually violated. Kelsi German, Libby's sister, described being under the bridge and being called out to by a group searching. Pretrial hearings for Allen are slated to begin on January 13 at 9am. There has been no official indication of if this description is still relevant to the investigation as it was associated with the oldsketch. Interview?) Newly Unsealed Documents (in Text Format) Show 'the Smoking Gun' Used to tie Richard Allen to Delphi Murders. For more information, please see our From 75-yards away I could see girls clothing in Deer Creek east of the bridge and knew full well that the girls where found very nearby. I think we expect more twists and turns and more unexpected developments who knows what lies ahead. Great post. JBC is innocent of this crime. Or a random person at the graveyard saw him. Therefore, after Mrs. X married Mr. X, they must have gone to court and had his name legally changed to Mr. Xs last name. So many new developments. Hopefully we can talk about some of the things that Ive come up with. Well that's because that's where all the kids were. The police keep saying they're close to solving the case, is that true or is that a bad sign that they're far from it? We have no idea who they may have in mind as the possible accomplice, however, the statement that the suspect is considerably younger than Mr. X adds weight to the notion that the Young BG sketch is based on a person who LE feels may have been accomplice to the crime that day. building torn down. There were kids there before them, there were kids there during, there were kids there after. - Mike Patty, Timestamp 13:41, Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, 16. Stepson X is Mrs. Xs child by a previous marriage and may have been adopted by Mr. X. Abby and Libby had been enjoying a day off school, hanging out at the Delphi Historic Trails when they disappeared on Feb. 13, 2017. After searching, All rights reserved. Though most have no idea of who Mr X is, it looks like you just said it in the replies. [11] It is possible to get a rough estimate of where the bodies were based off of placement of crime scene tape in the woods. A subreddit dedicated to the unresolved mysteries of the world. I wonder if the witness tossed the idea around of "what if I incriminate an innocent person"? Kun napsautat Hyvksy kaikki, hyvksyt sen, ett Yahoo ja kumppanimme ksittelevt henkiltietojasi ja nyttvt evsteiden kaltaisten tekniikoiden avulla sinulle rtlity mainontaa ja sislt sek hydyntvt nit tekniikoita mainosten ja sislln mittaamisessa, kohderyhmtiedoissa ja tuotekehityksess. Whether those are the same person is not yet known, but it is possible. CPS building is Crop Protection Services, not Child Protection Services. Submissions should outline a mystery and provide a link to a more detailed review of the case such as a Wiki article or news report. DELPHI, Ind. So now we have testimony from three excellent sources two independent search party members and an LE source close to the investigation. Its long been suggested that BG used his sons photo, and talk of a father-son kill team was actually the first rumor about the killer(s), dating to 7 PM the day they were found. WISH_TV8 writing: Leazenby wouldnt go into specifics about forensic evidence in the case, although he did say investigators had requested that DNA evidence be 'fast-tracked,'. A sheriffs deputy in a nearby town who stated: One of the girls was in the early stages of pregnancy. This would have been found on autopsy, and a statement like that usually means 6-8 weeks pregnant. Family members of Liberty German and Abigail Williams listen as Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter announces the arrest of Richard Allen for the girls' 2017 murder Oct. 31, 2022. Hes just a situational molester and theyre no more attracted to kids than anyone else. Like I said, idk. So here the first two reports we heard about this came from the police. D. Prater is Caleb Bowlin, eh? Today, a new sketch of the suspect, appearing to be in his mid-twenties to mid-thirties. Legal Statement. When she approached, offering help, the young man told her that he was waiting for his dad to pick him up. I have a few, but they probably dont hold a candle to what you came up with. We also believe that this person is from Delphi currently or has previously lived here, visits delphi at a regular basis or works here. I mean, if it is then its a hell of a job sleuthing wise. This is what they told us: But now we have a shocking new revelation. Critics claim we have all these LE sources but we dont. Also this rumor has been somewhat backed up by a third LE sources close to the investigation, who said both girls had been violated with foreign objects. Now we have three references to this statement, all from the police themselves. Best of all, much of our information is via solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. At 17, he was the right age for a 19 year old Catfish Boy. 12 Noe Padilla, Lafayette Journal . First, a pitch for supporting this website and our private sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. "I also want to thank all of the reporters, podcasters, and other news and social media outlets for keeping our girls' story relevant and in the public eye. Currently, ine and Kevin say they're digging into the past of Allen to find out more about who he was before his arrest, and before he was "plunged into the spotlight of this heinous murder.". Email is the preferred way to send tips to help solve this crime. There has been some debate online as to whether the Libby's cell phone was physically recovered by law enforcement, the idea being that the video could have been pulled from an app or cloud service if the phone was missing. On another thread on the sub for the case someone said one of the girls uncles or something is dating this guy JDD's (who really resembles him) sister so maybe he would know the girl. Thank you, dear. Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby is clearing up some misconceptions about the Delphi double homicide case released by other media outlets on Friday. by Pentagon Pedophile Task Force on June 26, 2021 at 9:37 P.M. This young lady is a hero, theres no doubt, t, activate that video system on her cellphone. My thoughts are maybe they were scared and hoping the killer would be caught fast or enough time would pass so he wouldn't remember them and would assume it could be anyone. It is also possible that this journalist meant only to imply that any video of a killer approaching would haunt investigators. The department has received over 40,000 tips, all have been vetted and follow-upped on. How many saw Bridge Guy and when?LISTEN to the FULL PODCAST here -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6KPvghETZ4AUDIBLE FREE TRIAL - https://amzn.to/2KRHO8C\rSUPPORT MINDSHOCK - https://www.paypal.me/mindshock\r-SOCIAL- \rFACEBOOK - http://facebook.com/MindshockPodcast\rTWITTER - https://twitter.com/MindshockPod\rREDDIT - https://www.reddit.com/r/mindshock\rMEDIUM - https://medium.com/@mindshock\rPATREON - https://www.patreon.com/mindshock You know I ran back out to the house here and I got any Ipads or Ipods or computers or anything electronic gadgetry that I could come across to take back in so that they could review through all that." There is news via our LE source close to the investigation. First of all, it bears no good resemblance to Mr. X, the main suspect in the crime. The quality of the DNA collected is unknown. The rumor that dolls were scattered around the crime scene seems patently ridiculous. "So when we check the phone records, the police call was about 5:20, -Becky Patty,Timestamp 29:00, Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, 7. Thread starter Tricia; Start date Apr 22, 2019; I think a witness might assume early on that since law enforcement had a photo and video what more do they need. ", "A Delphi police detective searches the scene near midday Tuesday where two bodies were found near the banks of Deer Creek.". Arent you a member of the private group? ", CVS customer Betty Cummings told the Indy Star, "He just blended right in. Also in this WTHRarticle, written August 12, 2017 reporter Emily Longnecker writes: Sgt. Strongnasolabial folds and hooded eyes still present in Figure A. The person in the sketch released April 22nd is described as having a youthful appearance, but could fall in the age range from his, Today, a new sketch of the suspect, appearing to be in his, We also believe that this person is from Delphi currently or has previously lived here, visits delphi at a regular basis or works here. So he would be a suspect, but half of the men in Delphi have probably been suspects at one point. All rights reserved. Now, as the investigation has matured and past information has been reassessed, it is the belief of investigators with the Multi-Agency Task Force that the person depicted in the sketch released on April 22nd more accurately represents the person wanted for the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. Girls stay in the hard to knock up stage from ages 13-15. . Its believed that the killer may be from or has lived in the city of Delphi. August 26, 2017 It is on the other side of Deer Creek that the bodies are found. [8] At the time of the homicides, the bridge was still owned by CSX but was unofficially used by the community as a public trail. LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- Court documents newly obtained by WDRB link a man in jail with social media accounts police are investigating in connection with the murders of two young girls in Delphi . Visitors Online 1,235 Visitors Online 1,235 Home. 2020 THE SUN, US, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, Libby German (left) and Abby Williams (right) were found dead in February 2017, Arrested for the two girls' murders last week was 50-year-old Delphi local Richard Allen, Journalist ine Cain and attorney Kevin Greenlee, of The Murder Sheet podcast, expect plenty more twists in the coming weeks and months, Richard Allen is pictured with his wife with a sketch of the Delphi suspect visible in the background, One of the two composite sketches of the possible suspect released by law enforcement is seen above, The only known footage of the suspect was captured by Libby German on her phone, Richard Allen has no known criminal past and is a married pharmacy technician who worked at a local CVS, One of the final images captured by Libby German showed Abby walking along the Monon High Bridge Trial where the girls would ultimately meet their killer, Richard Allen has pleaded not guilty to two counts of murder, Libby and Abby's manners of death have never been disclosed by the police, Delphi murders podcasters predict more bombshell twists in case after killer Richard Allens shocking arrest, Shock pics of Serena Williams' crumbling childhood home revealed as King Richards' legal battle over ownership rages on, Julie Powell shared disturbing tweets about health & 'black hairy tongue' a day before tragic cardiac arrest death at 49, Princess Diana was box office when she was alive - so if you dont like The Crown, dont watch, Heartbreaking new picture of American students killed in Seoul Halloween stampede taken only hours before tragic deaths, Takeoff shooting suspects hunted by Texas cops who urge witnesses to 'step up' after Migos rapper killed at party, Inside 'Killer Sally' McNeil's life after prison for Valentine's Day murder of 'abusive' husband Ray and her remarriage, Mystery deepens in disappearance of flight attendant Sarm Hislop from boyfriend's luxury boat as eerie new CCTV emerges, We spent years trying to find our real father only to discover the chilling truth from our mums doctor. I know we are on 2 different paths. There were definitely dolls at the site that day. I'm beyond annoyed, I'm surprised you can't see my eyes rolling through the computer. pm on February [13th] 2017. Allen, 50, has been charged with two counts of murder for killing German, 14, and her best friend, Williams, 13 a major break in the mysterious homicides that have baffled investigators for nearly six years. Now onto the match. I think if I were Mr X Id be shitting myself right about now and wondering what the hell to do. It said, We have a secret and the photo shows both of them holding up their hands in secret signs. lying in the grass between a group of trees deep in the woods, The bodies were found on private property, about. Police dont call this man a suspect or person of interest in the murders. At this press conference, the police also released a short video clip of the suspect obtained from Libbys cell phone. woman walking her dog (i.e. "We caught wind that an arrest had been made a little bit earlier, but it was one of those things where it was a great tip, very credible, but we also weren't able to get it confirmed," said ine. Suspect allegedly linked to Delphi murders reportedly in custody. Source: April 22 2019 Press Conference, Timestamp5:48, [Note: originally it was said to be on February 14 2017, but it was later corrected by law enforcement to February 13th.]. yesterday, I think it's really interesting that the police guy who's talking accidentally uses the pronoun 'she' when referring to the witness, three times. Delphi murders suspect Richard Matthew Allen, who was arrested last week for the 2017 double slaying of teens Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams, lived and worked in the community. Gull set aside June 15 and June 16, if needed for a bail hearing for Allen. There is a $250,000 reward for any information that leads to an arrest in the case. 2. I almost hope that is the case. Get all the stories you need-to-know from the most powerful name in news delivered first thing every morning to your inbox. I am also curious about the origin of the sketch. Im really interested in reading your Delphi stuff. They were murdered in a very short window of time between 2:07 pm (when Libby posted a picture of Abby to Snapchat) and 3 pm (when other witnesses were in the area but heard no sounds). He saw something. DELPHI More than two years after Liberty German and Abigail Williams were found murdered, Indiana State Police are releasing new evidence to help find their killer. This is why its so hard to get girls this age pregnant. And I think that what must have happened is they have taken these leads, they have interviewed literally thousands of people. Girls age 13-14 are notorious for missing periods some months and may even miss them for months at a time. Then he said, There was at least one doll at the crime scene.. While Flores was long considered the sole suspect in the case, authorities said Lambert was able to uncover witnesses that investigators had never spoken to before, helping them to garner some vital leads. Undated. The quote above was written by reporterAlexis McAdamsin an article that was printed by FOX59, IndyStar and CBS-4, if accurate, it would confirm that Libby's phone was recovered at the crime scene. So I yelled down and told them that. I think its likely the video/photos were found during the search of JBCs property and he led them to KAK. I cant believe how any of these detectives do what they do. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. The Indiana detectives investigating the 2017 Delphi murders claimed on Thursday to have new leads in the case and warned their suspect that they know who he is - but are yet to make any arrests . On February 15, 2011, the Indiana State Police department released a still image of a man seen walking near the Monon High Bridge the same afternoon Abby and Libby were there. Richard Allen, Delphi Murder Suspect, Was a Witness in the Case - How Did This Manipulate the Investigation & Will There Be Other Arrests? "I think the media in these cases can play a very important role in informing the public and keeping people focused on the facts of the investigation as opposed to speculation, as well as keeping interest in the case going, and tips pouring in," explained ine. No, no CP was found at JBCs place. State police officials have released a new short clip of the video recorded on Libby German's .

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